The GUS Daily Digest Sunday, 14 May 1995 Volume 22 : Number 012 Today's Topics: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #10 GUS ACE and game port ... Disappearing Mouse in Winslows Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #11 Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #10 Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #11 Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #11 Re: hello Theme Park.... use.... problems with FastTracker 2.03 (approx.) Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #11 Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #11 Finale/Coda academic package? 4-track hard drive program? Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #9 SCSI-2 Soundblaster and GUS? Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henrik Stahl Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 09:30:45 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #10 > > Hello! If anyone is interested in working on a GUS driver > > for NeXSTEP (What an intense OS!) please let me know. Developement > > has already started.. > Actually, there is a GUS Driver for unix and I'm using it with > FreeBSD... so perhaps you can use it with NeXTStep since it is based on > the Mach kernel which is BSD based... Writing a NeXTSTEP driver is quite different from writing drivers for other OS:s as NS is completely object oriented. This includes the DriverKit, which is a set of classes used to facilitate writing different drivers. The lack of a NS driver ha been irritating for us GUS/NS users for a long time. FYI, I am also involoved in this project. Henrik Stahl Royal Institute of Technology Stockholm, Sweden f92-hst@nada.kth.se ------------------------------ From: Michel Saleh Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 14:20:48 +0200 (GMT+0200) Subject: GUS ACE and game port ... Hi all, I received an ACM game card this week, and had weird problems with it. All the joystick buttons are permanently depressed. After messing around with the cards in my PC I noticed that the problem has something to do with my GUS ACE. When I install only the ACE and my video card (PCI card) detection software (MSD, Checkit) think I have a game card !! I tried different video cards also, the problem stays there. Does anyone else also have this ? Did Gravis not remove the gameport part completely from the ACE ? Can anyone tell me what else can be using port 201H (game card port) ? This is really frustrating: I want the ACE (I love it!), I want the game card (I need it !) but they just won't work together :( My configuration is: Asus SP3G (rev. 1.8) Award BIOS 4.50G (rev. 3.01 or 3.02) NCR SCSI BIOS 3.04 or 3.06 Onboard NCR 810 SCSI controller (disabled) Onboard IDE controller (enabled) Onboard FD controller (enabled) Onboard Serial ports (16550UART, one enabled, one disabled) Onboard Parallel port (enabled) PCI video card Miro 20SD (1 Mb, s3-864) 3Com Etherlink II network card (NE-1000) Thrustmaster ACM game card Gravis Ultrasound ACE 8 Mb RAM Focus 5001 Keyboard Microsoft Mouse 2.0 PS/2 version on an onboard PS/2 port Thanks, Michel. Michel A. Saleh michel@is.twi.tudelft.nl/afsta024@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXTMail : saleh@duti609a.twi.tudelft.nl "Juxtaposed Pictorial and other images in deliberate sequence. 'What about Batman ?! Shouldn't it have Batman in it ?' " - Scott McCloud, UC ------------------------------ From: "J.Waghorn" Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 15:12:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: Disappearing Mouse in Winslows I had this problem until I upgraded my Ultrinit to 2.31, and then "All my troubles just vanished!" (TM) - worked for me..... Ultrinit 2.31 available from any EPAS mirror in GUS0045.ZIP in amongst the gravis directory somewhere I expect..... TTFN Jason - -- Jason Waghorn Tel: (+44) 0191 515 2865 Research Assistant Fax: (+44) 0191 515 2703 S.E. & A.T. University of Sunderland WWW: http://j_waghorn_pc.sunderland.ac.uk/ Sunderland e-mail: j.waghorn@sunderland.ac.uk SR1 3SD or: jason.waghorn@sunderland.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: Sam Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 17:35:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #11 > Subject: Patches >256K playable? > > Hi! I was wondering if there's any way to load and use GUS patches that > are >256K. My friend has an EPS classic and has lots of nice _large_ > patches I'd like to convert if I can use them... I may even share... No. GUS has various memory limitations that mean special programming is necessary to get a single waveform > 256k to play. (There is no problem of a PATCH more than 256k if it is multisampled, as long as each individual waveform is less than 256k). (For those who're interested, the specific problem is that you can't play a voice across a 256k bank boundary - at least in 16-bit, I'm not quite sure about 8-bit). hope this helps, Sam by the way I'm confused about this combined list/digest format... if I need to tell Pine yes to "reply to multiple recipients" for everyone to read it, please let me know... [] http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d405ua <[ Web pagE ]> *NEW* Sysex Manager ! 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This means you can have a layered or split patch consisting of 4 256K patches, but not one megger. Just extract the lot to WAV+DES and fool around with the files. This is becuas the GUS arranges its memory in 4 256K banks and a wave must be wholly contained in one bank. Of course you can kludge it around, but the current set of drivers doesn't. About the HMI mixing - I talked to the coder of these drivers, and he said the mixing method was selectable - GF1 or software algorithm. Since the GF1 can speed a game by 15% (or 50% if we're using FP3D and many channels) it makes sense. USNF for GUS? Well, a file names USNF_GUS does the trick. How funny. GUS versions? The newest board version was 3.71 last time I checked. The differences between various versions are not major - notably the 3.1 and up have a CS mixer chip, while all the 2.x offers is enabling/disabling the various inputs. The MAX hasn't changed massively. Bottom line - the GF1 stays the same no matter what GUS you buy, and everything will work with it. Yossi. lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il / The people are with the Golan Heights. Currently serving somewhere in / Politically correct my ass. the Israeli Defense Forces. / Gravis Ultrasound - you'd better buy one - --------( "ObKibo" )--------- or I'll hit you (like my slogan?). ------------------------------ From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 13:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #11 On Sat, 13 May 1995, Sam wrote: > Sam > > by the way I'm confused about this combined list/digest format... if I > need to tell Pine yes to "reply to multiple recipients" for everyone to > read it, please let me know... Well, if you reply to gus-general@mail.orst.edu, everyone on the digest and the list will see it :) The one on the list will see it as a single message and the people on the digest will see it as a message in digest form... Cheers, Vince ___ System Administrator \|/ bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU ___ | The California Unix Public Access (o o) Systems, Inc. (CUPA) | | root@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU -oOO__(_)__OOo- San Francisco, California USA | | __ __ __ __ __ _____ _____ UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering | | ( )( )( )( ) ( )( ___)( ___) Los Angeles, California USA | \(__)/ ( )( )\| )( ) ( )_ E-Mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu, \ / ( )( ) \ )( )__ ( )__ mailserv@gaia.ucs.orst.edu, \/ (__)(__) (__)(_____)(_____) mailserv@mail.nws.orst.edu, I.S.A. Class of 1992 vince@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU, International Studies Academy High School vince@archive.epas.utoronto.ca, San Francisco, California USA vince@axposf.Stanford.EDU, GUS Digest/Mailing List Administrator vpoy@freenet.scri.fsu.edu, Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The VINCEP@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu, ultimate in computer soundcard technology upoy@physics.ucla.edu FreeBSD - Real Berkeley Unix(tm) for Free! BSD (tm)(c) 1995 - The Regents of | -=oOO There are many forms of science the University of California | | but only physics is the quantum leap of the 21st century OOo=- | | Harvard/Yale/MIT/Princeton/Berkeley Student in the making | |___ Copyrighted (c) 1995 by Vince. All Rights Reserved. ___| ------------------------------ From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 13:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: hello On Fri, 12 May 1995, John Wallace wrote: > I am new to the gus-general list, so I'd like to say hello. Welcome to the GUS Daily Mailing List! =) Just a nice friendly note from your list maintainer... > I do not own a GUS, but I'm thinking about buying one. > I remember reading about clicks & pops resulting from GUS's > Soundblaster emulation, and I am a bit concerned about it. > However that was over a year ago, and I have not been following > GUS discussions since then. I did pick up the GUS FAQ v1.56 > & update today & have not finished reading it. > I plan on using the GUS with DOS, OS/2 Warp, Linux, and maybe 386BSD. > It would be mostly used with DOS games. 386bsd is old and obselete. The current 386bsd derivatives are NetBSD and FreeBSD, both are now BSD 4.4lite based although I would recommend FreeBSD since I'm running it > I have an Asus SP3G motherboard and would like to know if that is > compatible with a GUS. Also, I have found both GUS and GUS Ultramax > listed in the Computer Shopper. Could someone tell me the difference > between the two? Thanks. Hmmm, I have a ASUS P54TP4PB Pentium Motherboard with the 256k Pipeline Burst Mode Cache and Intel Triton chipset and the GUS V2.4 board I have works just fine with it. What is the SP3G board exactly? Is it a 486 board? I think it should be compatible since ASUS is very good in both build quality and reliability. The GUS is the original board that had 256k on board RAM and is explandable to 1 MEG and also, can playback at 16bit but recording is at 8 bit. Add-ons include a 16 bit recording upgrade daughterboard, CD ROM interface daughterboard for your CD ROM Interface. The GUSMax comes with 16 bit recording and 3 CD ROM Interfaces and 512k ram and also a CODEC (Compression/Decompression Circuitry) and also it can record at a 48kHz sampling rate while the regular GUS can do only 44.1kHz. Hope I got this correct since I still have the GUS at this point. Cheers, Vince ___ System Administrator \|/ bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU ___ | The California Unix Public Access (o o) Systems, Inc. (CUPA) | | root@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU -oOO__(_)__OOo- San Francisco, California USA | | __ __ __ __ __ _____ _____ UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering | | ( )( )( )( ) ( )( ___)( ___) Los Angeles, California USA | \(__)/ ( )( )\| )( ) ( )_ E-Mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu, \ / ( )( ) \ )( )__ ( )__ mailserv@gaia.ucs.orst.edu, \/ (__)(__) (__)(_____)(_____) mailserv@mail.nws.orst.edu, I.S.A. Class of 1992 vince@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU, International Studies Academy High School vince@archive.epas.utoronto.ca, San Francisco, California USA vince@axposf.Stanford.EDU, GUS Digest/Mailing List Administrator vpoy@freenet.scri.fsu.edu, Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The VINCEP@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu, ultimate in computer soundcard technology upoy@physics.ucla.edu FreeBSD - Real Berkeley Unix(tm) for Free! BSD (tm)(c) 1995 - The Regents of | -=oOO There are many forms of science the University of California | | but only physics is the quantum leap of the 21st century OOo=- | | Harvard/Yale/MIT/Princeton/Berkeley Student in the making | |___ Copyrighted (c) 1995 by Vince. All Rights Reserved. ___| ------------------------------ From: Loren Kling (that's me) Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 13:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Theme Park.... use.... To get theme park to work with the GUS (Max) you need the SBOS file from EPAS? I know that the .exe file is called SBOSON (and you type sobsoff to turn off the emulator). Sorry, I don't know the name of this file. -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Loren Kling | * lkling@ucssun1.sdsu.edu * | SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ------------------------------ From: Tuomas E Aaltio Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 01:09:44 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: problems with FastTracker 2.03 (approx.) Howdy. I'v gus GUSMAX, and I'v tried to do some composing, but I aint got no good software. Is FastTracker supposed to work? When I try to record midi notes from my Roland E-30, something ruins rythm and notes disappear. I'v tried everything, but it it just doesnt work. Anybody got it working? Also do you know any laternative sortware. REcording session that came with card is RIP-OFF. 10 minutes before system-halt is currend record. (I'v got 386 & 8 Mb ram) Tuomas Aaltio >> I hate signatures longer than two (2) lines. >> ...because they are UGLY anyway. ------------------------------ From: Jesse Morris Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 20:02:01 -0400 Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #11 > > Subject: Patches >256K playable? > > > > Hi! I was wondering if there's any way to load and use GUS patches that > > are >256K. My friend has an EPS classic and has lots of nice _large_ > > patches I'd like to convert if I can use them... I may even share... > > No. GUS has various memory limitations that mean special programming is > necessary to get a single waveform > 256k to play. (There is no problem > of a PATCH more than 256k if it is multisampled, as long as each > individual waveform is less than 256k). Chances are most very large patches will indeed be multisampled.. which is good. > (For those who're interested, the specific problem is that you can't > play a voice across a 256k bank boundary - at least in 16-bit, I'm not > quite sure about 8-bit). It's got no problem with 8-bit huge samples. > by the way I'm confused about this combined list/digest format... if I > need to tell Pine yes to "reply to multiple recipients" for everyone to > read it, please let me know... You're not using the digest, you're using the list.. Pine is asking you if you want to send a copy directly to the original poster, in addition of the copy that goes to this list. For instance, I chose "yes" so you will get two copies of this message; one from me and one bounced off of gaia.ucs.orst.edu. If you were not subscribed to this list, this would ensure that you would get my post. If you were subscribed to the digest, it would ensure that my reply would not get overlooked. ------------------------------ From: Jesse Morris Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 20:03:59 -0400 Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #11 > GUS versions? The newest board version was 3.71 last time I checked. The > differences between various versions are not major - notably the 3.1 and up > have a CS mixer chip, while all the 2.x offers is enabling/disabling the > various inputs. The MAX hasn't changed massively. Bottom line - the GF1 stays > the same no matter what GUS you buy, and everything will work with it. The newer GUS's can generate NMI's at more places, which makes it easier to do stuff like protected mode MegaEm, which is why they are required for "Best performance" ------------------------------ From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 20:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Finale/Coda academic package? This is not GUS related perse, and I'd much rather post here than the music digest, as there's better traffic here, so please bear with me. Everyone else here probably thinks the same, but I feel the MidiSoft Recording Session is really limited. I can't print out stuff, and even the Studio version isn't much better (except I can print out scores). Anyway, in looking for more control, I've wanted to buy the Finale that was packaged with Coda here (and probably at other universities as well). The makers of Finale were making a special promo offer with both Finale and Coda for only $199! Or some dirt cheap price like that. Individually, each package would cost about $300 each. Unfortunately, this was last semester, which was sold out, and I tried asking about it for this semester, but they stopped doing this promo. I'm hoping they're doing another promo like this, but I guess they may consider it only if there's some mass action demand from people like you as well. So could some of you who are also interested in the Finale/Coda academic price also go to your campus software store, and get the phone number of Finale/Coda and ask them about having another price break? Thanks. -Peter ------------------------------ From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 20:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 4-track hard drive program? Just wondering if anyone know of a program out there that can use the Gus and the hard drive as a 4-track mixer emulator. I'm guessing that the GUS can do at least two-track mixing in real time (via the line and mic input). But since the GUS can *record* and *play* at the same time via different DMA channels, then theoretically, it can overlay individual tracks over and over (to the nth track, limited only by hard drive space), and there'd be no loss in sound quality, as it's all digital. I wouldn't mind getting a second 800+ MB hard drive just for this purpose; it's still cheaper than a Tascam recorder. Anyway, if anyone knows of such a program, let everyone know. Thanks. -Peter ------------------------------ From: George Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 22:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #9 I hope this hasn't been asked yet, but, was there ever an updated release of a 'LOREAIL' patch fix for _Lands of Lore_ so you get Sound Blaster digital voice and General MIDI using Ultramid? The patch I have so far can only give General MIDI. I know I can use Mega-EM, but playing LOL with patch caching sounds a lot better. - -George ------------------------------ From: Gunnar Swanson Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 02:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SCSI-2 Soundblaster and GUS? Dear GUSers, I recently got a Toshiba 3601B SCSI-2 CD-ROM and a SCSI-2 sound blaster 16. I am having trouble getting the SCSI CD-ROM and the gus to coexist. I can install the gus but when the SCSI driver loads it gives me a failure. If I remove the card the SCSI works. I would really rather not give up the GUS. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it. My theory seems to be that it is some sort of port or IRQ conflict but I changed the port on the card to 250 which none of the other devices seem to conflict with. Ideas suggestions welcome. 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